Feminists and Equality

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True feminists say that the word ‘feminist’ in itself is interchangeable with equal-ist.
 
But we’re not equal.

Hear me out.
 
The pros to female-rights, we can vote and we’re not restricted to our kitchen. Excellent.
 
The cons are the attitude that comes with woman-empowerment.

I dislike the “don’t hold a door open for me I can do it myself” attitude.
I think that’s a common courtesy. I’ve held doors open for men, and not once have I heard “a woman shouldn’t hold doors open. You are weaker.” Most often the response is “thank you” – the way it should be.

I also dislike the “we are equal to men and thus should be treated that way” attitude.
 
We’re not.

You want to get biblical? Adam was made of the Earth, Eve was but a mere rib. A rib of a man, no less.
 
I’m not going to play the bible card, I can’t preach something I don’t fully understand or necessarily agree with.
 
I would like to ask the feminists how they would feel if they were hit by a man. What would you do? Would you yell “hey, don’t hit me. Men shouldn’t hit women” then take him to court, yadda yadda?
Or would you be like “hey, I’m glad you’re treating me like a man, because I am your equal”?
 
Man hits man. Woman hits woman.
What happens? Nothing.
Woman hits man. Man hits wall.
Again, nothing.
Man hits woman. Bring on the media.
 
Abuse is bad, regardless of who throws the fist. Depending on the severity of the issue and the people involved, it can be taken to higher levels.
 
Where are the feminist picketers when the man hits the woman? Defending the woman. Why? Because the woman is the weaker sex and she didn’t stand a chance in that fist fight with the guy in the first place. What about those cases where the woman hits the man first? Should the man have the right to hit back?
 
Forget the law aspect. We all know what’s right and wrong (or at least we should). Given that I don’t fight crime and have yet to read a book on the law, I’m going based on assumption and the few episodes of “Cops” that I’ve seen, but I’m pretty sure that a woman can get charged for throwing a punch, regardless of who it’s toward and who fights back. If you throw a fist, you get punished. Doesn’t matter the gender of the victim or the perp (see that’s my Law & Order lingo coming out).
 
Enough on domestic abuse. What about employment? Should a woman be able to do whatever a man can? No.

I’m sure there are jobs out there that I wouldn’t want a man to do either…. like gynaecologist. Fully capable maybe, but doesn’t make me any more comfortable with the idea.
 
There are lots of things that we’re just not equipped to do, generally speaking. Guys are physically stronger. If a woman wants a job she’ll need to prove herself. At the end of the day, it’s possible that she didn’t get that job because she’s not capable. It’s possible that she’s not capable because she’s a woman.

But why the riot act? Why say “you can’t tell me no because I’m a woman” – you’re physically incapable. Deal with it. Hit the gym. Prove yourself.
 
I’m going to use firefighter as an example. These people have to wear heavy suits to protect themselves and carry equipment to save others. They also may have to save people by physically lifting them.
 
Women can do this, yes. There are women firefighters. I guarantee those women didn’t get the job based on the fact that they are women and they made a big stink. They got the job because they earned it. They proved themselves.

 

In this day and age, men have to prove themselves too. No one gets a job based on their gender. Otherwise I’d just put “female” on my résumé and hope for the best. Or I’d put “male” and laugh at the confused faces during interviews.

 

Listen ladies, you’re going to come across all sorts of jerks and pigs. That doesn’t mean we can go on and say “men suck and ladies should have all the power.”

A lot of women suck too. Face it.
 
Sexism is something that’s hard to deal with. Women have come a long way. The women that fought for the right to vote, THAT was something. They stood up and said “hey, I have a voice and you’re going to hear it” – they proved themselves. Be grateful.
 
I hardly think that you’re setting a good example for us women by saying “I should be allowed because I’m a woman” or “I shouldn’t be disregarded because I’m a woman.”

 

Prove yourself as a person. “I should be allowed to do this because I’m capable” and “I shouldn’t be disregarded because I’ve proven myself.”  Those are positive statements worthy of quoting. I believe these are the things a role model should say.
 
Those women, motivate. That’s true feminism. The right to exist as a human, who just so happens to be female.

 

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  • Anonymous

    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of feminism stemmed from sexual frustration personally. I knew a girl who was an irritating feminist on occasion, and she had never had a boyfriend (she's hetero) or an intimate partner.

    Kind of a chicken an egg story, eh? What's the cause? No one knows!!

    ROFL at not everyone can be a penis model. :P

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ralene Ralene

    I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your post! I am a Christian, so there are some Biblical reasons that I don't totally agree with the feministic movement, but I also do not buy into the "because we are women, we should be seen and not heard" idea either. (I also just wanted to mention that I know from personal experience due my previous marriage that was very abusive, that if a woman hits a man, she does go to jail also. I was never actually put in jail for retaliating, but found out that I could have been.)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ralene Ralene

    I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your post! I am a Christian, so there are some Biblical reasons that I don't totally agree with the feministic movement, but I also do not buy into the "because we are women, we should be seen and not heard" idea either. (I also just wanted to mention that I know from personal experience due my previous marriage that was very abusive, that if a woman hits a man, she does go to jail also. I was never actually put in jail for retaliating, but found out that I could have been.)

  • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

    It does seem strange that there are calls for equality (and rightly so) yet it's not taken into context at times. Of course there will be times that women can't do a certain something, and vice versa too – men won't be able to so something because of gender. It does work both ways.

    Yet having a hissy fit about it isn't always the answer. As you say, prove the doubters wrong (if it's possible, obviously) and do it, or accept it can't be done and move on.

    As my good friend Joey says, not everyone can be a penis model. :)

  • http://dretheenigma.wordpress.com Dre

    That's funny. I was just thinking about this when someone left the seat up in the women's room and I almost fell in.
    You're pointing out a common oversimplification made by many in the equality movement, which wrongly assumes that everyone is created equal. This is impossible. Regardless of how many laws you pass or sexual harassment prevention workshops you hold, not everyone is created equal.

    That doesn't mean that some people are better or worse than others. It does mean that everyone is different. I can't treat my hearing-impaired father the same way I treat my boss. If I treated them equally, I would always be shouting at my boss, or making my father say "What? I can't hear you. I turned up my hearing aids. What?"

    Fortunately, I have common sense, which tells me that while I can't treat these two people equally, I can choose the most ethical way to treat them on an individual basis.

    Feminism should stand for ethical treatment–not equal treatment.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JacStar JacStar

    Thank you for sharing Ralene. As you can tell by any of my posts, I don't support the "not be heard" aspect either. Quite frankly, I usually don't know when to shut up lol

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JacStar JacStar

    LOL I wish i could treat my boss like you treat your dad. Do you know how great it would be to get away with the yelling?

    Ethical treatment… exactly :)

  • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

    It does seem strange that there are calls for equality (and rightly so) yet it's not taken into context at times. Of course there will be times that women can't do a certain something, and vice versa too – men won't be able to so something because of gender. It does work both ways.

    Yet having a hissy fit about it isn't always the answer. As you say, prove the doubters wrong (if it's possible, obviously) and do it, or accept it can't be done and move on.

    As my good friend Joey says, not everyone can be a penis model. :)

  • http://confessionsofachewinggumaddict.blogspot.com PurplePeopleEater

    The feminist movement, when claiming that it is equivalent to equalist, refers to being equal in humanity and as persons.

    This applied 60+ years ago. The world has changed, but for the most part I find that feminist ideals have not. I personally get very irritated by those who claim to be feminists who simply tote that man-hating "We are equal!" business. Hating men isn't exactly promoting equality, now is it? As was previously said, it is about ETHICAL treatment.

  • http://confessionsofachewinggumaddict.blogspot.com PurplePeopleEater

    For example, let's look at domestic assault. Domestic assault is defined as non-consensual contact by an individual against their intimate partner. Nowhere is it defined as when the male partner of an intimate relationship assaults the female. This perception is not entirely incorrect, as statistically females are victims of domestic assault more than males, and experience more severe levels of violence than males. But this does not take into account that there are males who are abused by females, nor does it account for same-sex couples who are certainly not absolved from domestic assault occurring. I'm a Criminology student, by the way, so I'm not just pulling this out of the air.

  • http://confessionsofachewinggumaddict.blogspot.com PurplePeopleEater

    Assault is assault. It is not any worse simply because it was committed by a man against a woman. It is wrong to hit people, PERIOD. Gender should not be of any importance. The reason we attribute so much importance to it is a result of societal and moral construct, and a lot of this traces back to the feminist movement. Domestic assault is argued to perpetuate the paternalistic constructs of history in a contemporary society, but obviously it's not paternalistic if a woman hits a man, in retaliation or not. Isn't that the kind of double standard feminists are looking to absolve?

    Everyone is equal as persons under the law, with rights to live autonomously and securely under the constructs of law that have been institutionalized. That's the extent of equality. It is nonsense to think that all people are equal in all ways, because Jacki is right – it is simply impossible for that to be the case.

  • http://confessionsofachewinggumaddict.blogspot.com PurplePeopleEater

    Toting around your gender as if it entitles you to something is simply hypocritical. That's what the male population used to do that got feminists' panties in a twist in the first place, right?

    That being said, I obviously do not agree with males being superior to females and that nonsense. I also do not mean to offend anyone. I just have a real problem with "Because I'm a woman" being the only reason or justification used by some people. That doesn't solve anything. It's exactly as you said Jacki – prove yourself. Give us something besides gender to work with, then you can be on an equal playing field.

    Sorry for the multiple posts…I just really wanted to do a post like this justice in my comment :P

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JacStar JacStar

    I would have got back to you sooner, but i was barefoot and in the kitchen. The husband demanded a hot meal and woe is me.

    You make significantly good points Ms. PurplePeopleEater – i'd would have quoted all these things in the post itself, if I had any law/crime book in front of me… The husband doesn't really allow me to read such educational literature. Far be it for a woman to get ahead in life.

  • http://confessionsofachewinggumaddict.blogspot.com PurplePeopleEater

    LOL

    That is all.

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